Sunday, August 16, 2009

Could this be 'Investigative Journalism'?

So why did Madeleine McCann detectives ask so few questions after major breakthrough?

By Tom Worden, Martin Delgado and Andrew Chapman
Last updated at 12:58 AM on 16th August 2009

Private detectives leading the hunt for Madeleine McCann faced questions last night after a Mail on Sunday investigation revealed apparent shortcomings in chasing a ‘strong lead’.

The detectives failed to make even rudimentary inquiries before announcing a ‘significant’ development in the worldwide search for the six-year-old.

At a Press conference in London, lead investigator David Edgar appealed for help in finding a ‘bit of a Victoria Beckham lookalike’ whom a British tourist saw looking agitated outside a dockside restaurant in Barcelona three days after Madeleine disappeared.

Retired Cheshire Detective Inspector Mr Edgar said it was possible that Madeleine had been smuggled into the Spanish port by yacht from the Portuguese resort of Praia da Luz, where she vanished on May 3, 2007.

The agitated woman, thought to be Australian, made a remark to the tourist which suggested she was waiting for the arrival of a child.

Mr Edgar, 52, told the 50 journalists from several countries: ‘It’s a strong lead. Madeleine could have been in Barcelona by this point. The fact the conversation took place near the marina could be significant.’

As a result of his appeal for information and the issuing of an e-fit image of the woman, the search switched to Australia, where a woman in Sydney made a statement to police claiming to know the identity of the mystery female seen in Barcelona, although this apparently came to nothing.

The Mail on Sunday, however, has established that members of Mr Edgar’s team who had visited Barcelona:

  • Failed to speak to anyone working at the seafood restaurant near where the agitated woman was seen at 2am.
  • Failed to ask the port authority about movement of boats around the time Madeleine disappeared.
  • Failed to ask if the mystery woman had been filmed on CCTV.
  • Knew nothing about the arrival of an Australian luxury yacht just after Madeleine vanished until told by British journalists, who gave them the captain’s mobile phone number.
  • Failed to interview anyone at a nearby dockside bar where, according to Mr Edgar, the mystery woman was later seen drinking.
  • Failed to ask British diplomats in Spain for advice before or during the visit.

Also, Spanish police could not confirm that they had been contacted by the British investigators.

Last night Mr Edgar said: ‘We are not above criticism and I take responsibility for any shortcomings. If somebody has not done what they should have done, that’s my job to deal with that.’

McCann

Conversation: The bar belonging to Jose Luiz Lopez where the key conversation between a tourist and an Australian woman allegedly took place

He was hired by Kate and Gerry McCann after Portuguese authorities shelved their investigation last year.

According to the Find Madeleine Fund website, ‘the majority of the fund money has been and continues to be spent on investigative work to help to find Madeleine’.

The McCanns, doctors living in Rothley, Leicestershire, originally hired Barcelona-based detective agency Metodo 3 to look for Madeleine in 2007 as they were convinced that Portuguese police had given up the search.

Metodo 3 reportedly charged £50,000-a-month and its director, Francisco Marco, was criticised after making a series of boasts about his team’s ability to find Madeleine.

In December 2007, he caused a sensation by claiming he knew who had kidnapped her and hoped to have her home by Christmas.

Metodo 3’s six-month contract ran out in January 2008, although it has continued to help with the search.

The Mail on Sunday’s inquiry by a Spanish-speaking reporter in Barcelona last week has exposed worrying gaps in the British detectives’ strategy, including failure to question several people who might have vital information.

McCann

Appeal: Clarence Mitchell, left, and David Edgar with their e-fit of the 'Victoria Beckham lookalike'

Jose Luis Lopez, owner of the El Rey de la Gamba restaurant where the
mystery woman was seen, said: ‘The private detectives did not make any enquiries at my restaurant.

‘I am almost always here when the restaurant is open and my staff would have informed me if anyone had approached them about such an important matter. You are the first person to ask about this Australian woman.’

The manager of the bar next door, Kennedy’s Irish Sailing Club, where the woman was later seen drinking, said: ‘You are the first person to ask about this Australian woman or the Madeleine case. If someone came into the bar asking questions about Madeleine, I would hear about it very quickly.’

Barcelona port director Joan Guitart said: ‘Nobody has been here asking questions about Madeleine or this Australian woman. This is the first I have heard about any possible link to the port. We would be happy to help the investigation in any way possible.’

McCann

Riddle: Was Madeleine taken to Barcelona marina?

A senior port authority worker added: ‘There are several security cameras monitoring the port but we have not been approached about footage from the night in question.

‘The footage is not available, as it was over two years ago that this conversation is said to have taken place. But I would have expected anyone carrying out the investigation to at least have asked about it.’

A source at the British Embassy in Madrid said: ‘The detectives did not inform us or the consulate in Barcelona that they were coming to Spain, nor request any assistance in their investigation.’

Jewellery designer Hannah Tait, 35, from London, who lives on a 34ft yacht yards from El Rey de la Gamba, said: ‘This place is like a small village so news travels very fast.

Nobody has been here asking about Madeleine or the Australian woman.

‘The first I heard was when I read about this on the internet. If someone had been investigating something so important here in the port, I would have heard about it.’

A Barcelona-based private detective with more than 20 years’ experience of missing persons cases said: ‘I cannot understand why the Madeleine detectives would have released this story and e-fit to the public without first making their own investigation in the port.

‘It beggars belief that they did not even speak to the owner of the restaurant or the port authorities.’

McCann

Identified: The Mail on Sunday discovered Rhonda Wyllie's yacht Willpower was in the marina at the vital time in 2007

One of the most significant pieces of information about a possible Barcelona connection to Madeleine’s disappearance was uncovered by British journalists.

Later, The Mail on Sunday gained access to port records for the key dates of May 6 and 7, 2007.

They revealed that nine boats arrived in the marina in the 48-hour period, only one of which was unfamiliar to harbour authorities.

It was the £6million Sunseeker powerboat Willpower, owned by the Australian multi-millionairess Rhonda Wyllie.

When the then captain of the boat was eventually found, he said he had not been approached by any British detectives.

Although he has since been contacted by Mr Edgar’s team, the investigators are in the embarrassing position of having to explain why it was left to reporters to discover the boat’s presence in Barcelona and trace its former captain.

There is no suggestion that Mrs Wyllie, widow of property tycoon Bill Wyllie, is connected in any way with Madeleine’s disappearance.

The Barcelona stage of the inquiry was led by Mr Edgar’s assistant, former Merseyside Detective Sergeant Arthur Cowley, and an interpreter.

Mr Cowley, 57, is sole director of Alpha Investigation Group, based in Flintshire, North Wales.

He declined to discuss the details of his visit to Barcelona.

Asked last night why Mr Cowley and his colleague had not spoken to the port authorities, Mr Edgar said: ‘My instructions were that they couldn’t get through security at the marina at the time. I’ve got to take that at face value. We are a small team. We are dealing with finite resources and will have to manage with that.’

He said Mr Cowley’s company had no connection with the Madeleine investigation. ‘I am employed by the McCann family and I pick my staff,’ he added.

Madeleine was nearly four when she disappeared from a holiday flat while her parents dined with friends in a nearby restaurant.

Last night the McCanns’ spokesman Clarence Mitchell said: ‘The private investigation into Madeleine’s disappearance is being conducted entirely professionally and thoroughly under the direction of Dave Edgar.

McCann

In the dark: Jose Luiz Lopez, the bar owner who was not spoken to by private detectives

‘Upon receipt of the new witness information, two members of the investigative team travelled to Barcelona to conduct preliminary inquiries during a brief initial visit.

‘This included identifying the exact marina where the witness had been and all relevant locations within it. At that stage, the precise bar involved had not been identified by the witness. Nevertheless, inquiries were conducted at a number of bars, with staff members being interviewed.

‘However, not all of the bars were open during the investigators’ visit. Because of the transient nature of bar work, it was also found that many of the workers who were spoken to were not present at the marina in May 2007.

'Other relevant personnel in the area were also interviewed, although we will not
discuss the detail of who was spoken to for operational reasons.

‘The information, once gathered, including photographs, was brought back to the UK for witness confirmation. Both British and Portuguese police were kept fully informed of the investigators’ visit to Spain.

‘The news conference was then held for the simple reason that public assistance was needed once the e-fit had been drawn up from the witness account. The public appeal does not preclude further enquiries being conducted in Barcelona as appropriate.’

He declined to say how much the private detectives were being paid, adding: ‘We will not discuss contractual matters concerning the investigation costs nor the investigator remuneration.’

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1206842/Why-did-Madeleine-McCann-detectives-ask-questions.html#ixzz0OIJH5VMc

37 comments:

mandarinn said...

Hi Claudia and all!!
After a long time with no news it seems stunning news appear.I wonder if mccan team had exausted their imagination... At the same time we can see some news papersare optn the eyes.Did you see today DM?
The wtather here is melting, i'm going to cinema with a wool scarf on my bag (it use to be there as cold as in my freezer)
bjs

Zodiac said...

Hi Claudia and all,

I never thought I would read anything like that article in a British newspaper. Hope it continues.

Cláudia said...

Hi, Mandarinn.
Interesting times, it seems. Wish I had no other things to think about and follow these last developments with more attention.
What about DM? Have you got a link?
Melting here too.
Muitos bjnhs.

Cláudia said...

Hi, Zodiac.
Indeed. What a breath of fresh air.
Hope it's just the beginning too.
xxxx

nancy said...

Hi Claudia, Zodiac and Mandarinn,

I've just read the Daily Mail report on here and had to pick myself up from the floor!! Admittedly they only criticised the pretendy detectives, but at the same time it reflects badly on the McCanns for hiring yet another gang of cowboys to search for Madeleine's supposed abductor. We all remember the shady Metodo 3 they hired in the first place!

Good for the Mail anyway - never thought I'd say that but it might hopefully encourage the rest of the tabloids to refrain from burying their heads in the sand!!

As for the McCanns threatening to sue The Madeleine Foundation, I'm sure they will be encouraged to 'bring it on' by Tony, Debbie and all those who have been involved in spending so much of their own time (much more than the McCanns have) in trying to get to the truth of what happened to poor Madeleine on that holiday.

Let's hope it leads to a reopening of the case, but I won't hold my breath!

Cláudia said...

Hi, Nancy.
Couldn't have said it any better.
Exactly.
xxxx

Hope4truth said...

Hello All

The Mail article was very brave not many people realise that M3 were only looking for things to prove the McCann's were innocent.

looks like the new lot are only there to do that as well???

What I cant comprehend is why two ex policemen would not be running to their ex collegues begging them to investigate as they are trying but are not supposed to...

What do I know maybe they have already.

If the McCann's knew the Mail would print this today I think the Madleine Foundation have given them a bit of of break really as other papers can print the poor stalked parents of a missing child line....

I still think I would only have 3 reasons why M was not abducted now...

1. Kate refusing to answer a single question for her.

2. The joyus couple on what would have been Ms 4th Birthday only 9 days after telling the world she was in the hands of a peadophile ring.

2. The Funds accounts let them be audited and where has all that cash gone??? They can blame solicitors and lawyers but Madeleine needed neither all she needed was someone to look for her.

xxx

Hope4truth said...

Oh BTW

I fixed my name (dont ask how I dont know why or how it changed) but I am back to Hope at last xxx

Niza said...

I look at site of McCann friend Rosiepoops to see reaction to pamphlet. I really scared for that person. She either family or very, very ill. So many hate in her writings you can feel the evil as you read. Sick, Sick, Sick. To much emotional involvement if not related to family. Not normal person anyway. I have feeling she spend life thinking about how to save McCanns from those you dare have brain and think for themself.

As for sue, if I Mr. Tony or Mrs Debbie, I not worry. McCanns say they sue everybody, but I not hear of anyone actual sued. It was the Felgueiras girl, then it was Correio da Manha, then it was Bloggers, then it was Gonçalo Amaral, now it Mr. Tony and Mrs Debbie. I wait and wait and I so tired of waiting that I sit because otherwise I fall from so much tiredness of waiting for sues.

All talk. All talk.

Also like article showing how the search not real search. They release sketch of person without do all homework? I not detective and I even know that makes no sense. Unless intentin was to make lots of noise, use fact that missing children campaign big in Australia last week. Today I read fund with little money. In my opinion, all connected. In my opinion, jornalists start to open eyes, and in my opinion, even believers start to find strange so many press conferences without anything substantial.

Jornalists opening eyes. Wonder after elections what they write.

Cláudia said...

Hi, Hope. Welcome back (your 'old' name, I mean! :-)
Dick 1 and dick 2 seems too incompetent to be true, don't they? I bet they aren't as incompetent as they have to be right now...
The lack of cooperation is the main thing for me too. After the dogs, of course.
xxxx

Gina said...

Hi All,

Off to the UK tomorrow to see my folks but thought I would just make some comments on the latest before I go.

1. Whether the McCanns are guilty or innocent of anything to do with M's disappearance, it was their choice to go about things in the way they have, eg. Not co-operating with PJ, pact of silence, high profile marketing etc etc. This has given them celebrity status and has left them wide open for loads of criticism by many who do not agree with their tactics. Now the papers are beginning to question things too.

2. I have a lot of respect for the British police but these two so called experienced retired detectives are making the force look stupid. With all their years experience one would have thought they would have known that when the women in question asked this guy if he had her daughter they would have known it was drug slang for a quarter of an ounce. Also if someone was waiting to pick up an abducted child they would not go around asking people if they were the ones they had her. Bloody stupid and unbelievable rubbish.

3. Who in their right mind waits all this time to pass this information onto the police even if it did mean his wife might ask questions as to what he was up to in Barcelona that night. He could still have remained anon at the time in the same way he has now. Another load of rubbish and I think the papers will not print much more of this type of thing because it makes them loose creditability too.

I hope the papers soon have to guts to ask the McCanns why there was a need for a pact of silence in the first place, but I am not holding my breath on that one.

Adios amigos/amigas

Cláudia said...

Hi, Niza.
You crack me up. I love not only what you say but especially the way you say it. :-) If you're like that in English, you must be even more fantastic in Portuguese! :-)
We are living interesting times... Let's hope they bring winds of change. Probably won't be around much today. Someone I love is having minor surgery.
xxxx

Cláudia said...

Hi, Gina.
Hope you're ok and wish you a safe trip.
The 3 questions you raise are the questions which should make anyone with a brain raise their eyebrows.
1 - You can't ask people for help and money, involve them in this whole sorry mess and then shut them up when they don't agree with you/ your decisions/ your attitudes.
2 - Those two dicks can't be that stupid. It's not possible. No one who has worked for the police can be that stupid, in my opinion. The question is: why are they being so stupid? Well, your guess is as good as mine.
3 - Does that 'witness' even exist in the true sense? Or was it conveniently 'found'?
I hope so too. But I'm also not holding my breath.
Have a nice time in the UK.

Zodiac said...

Hi Claudia and all,

Any non news on the whereabouts of Porky Posh today?

I wonder if phantom Porky Posh (who was spotted in Barcelona over 2 years ago by a phantom witness) was sipping a bottle of Becks beer, carrying a little dog called Toto, wore a pair of red stilletos and was agitatedly clicking her heels together singing in Spanish Catalan "I am off my head with Wiz....tra la... tra la...I am from the ever wonderful Oz...and of my head with Wiz because because because
because of the wonderful things it does! If she was who could criticise the phantom witness?

Cláudia said...

Hi, Zodiac.
LOLOL
Porky posh still seems to be in captivity. God knows what that disgusting swarthy, sardine munching 'abductor' is doing to her. Bet he made her wear cheap jeans. Horror! :-)
xxxx

Niza said...

Story of Victoria look-like woman has more wholes than cheese. How many men know if woman jeans expensive, at night after drink? Not even during day. This man supposed married man. I not know any married man, bank guys, that notice if women's jeans expensive. They look at other things inside jeans.

I seem I right about sues. Tal & QUal, no more sue. Surprise, surprise. I only not win lottery, because I not far when it come to guess other things.

Claudia, hope you family member better now.

nancy said...

Hi everyone -

Hi Claudia -

I hope the minor op goes well - your family and friends do seem to be in the wars lately. I hope your dad is well on the mend. They should all eat more sardines - tasty and full of goodness. I just love them barbecued!

Hi Hope -

Great to see you have your own name back at last!

I could add so much more to your numbered list, not least Kate admitting they had not looked for Madeleine because it was too dark!!
Not to worry that poor Madeleine may have been crying somewhere in the dark waiting for her Mum and Dad to find her. But then they knew they wouldn't find her!

Hi Gina -

Nice to see you back, and have a good holiday in the UK! The weather's great at the moment. I sat by the river in Cambridge yesterday - lots of people on the boats - we have to make the most of the good weather in the UK of course, as you well know!

I agree with you about the McCann's hired plods. If these two ex-cops were bona fide, then they must have a bit more insight into what is going on than they make out. They, and CM, have to come up with some lead or other to earn their keep, even if it's an invisible VB lookalike and an even more invisible witness who spoke to her. Poppycock!

----------------------------------

If only the LP's had as much interest in getting to the truth of what happened to Madeleine as Tony Bennett and Debbie - they would have had the truth out of those Tapas 9 long ago and asked some searching questions instead of pussyfooting around them. Their statements are a complete farce and completely contradictory.

Because of the leaflet drop, whether it brings good or bad publicity for the McCanns, there are many more people who are reading what we've been blogging about for over two years now and getting nowhere. But just blogging won't get us anywhere and it took the Madeleine Foundation to make people sit up and take notice! My hats off to them!

JUSTICE FOR MADELEINE!

Gina said...

Hi again, have some time to kill before going to airport & have been reading news. I guess you have read this:

£3m Maddie Fund empty in months The People

EXCLUSIVE
Russell Myers
16 August 2009

The £3million fund to find missing Madeleine McCann will run out out of money by the end of the year.

Cash flooded in from wellwishers around the world after the angelic youngster vanished in Portugal in May 2007 days before her fourth birthday.

But since then, £1million has been spent on private detectives, £123,000 on campaign managers, £100,000 on posters and ads and £110,000 on legal fees and expenses. And public donations to the Find Madeleine Fund - which peaked at £260 an hour - have almost dried up.

The shortfall was revealed as leaflets blaming parents Kate and Gerry over Maddie's disappearance were delivered to every address in the McCanns' home village of Rothley, Leics.

The furious couple have vowed to sue the sick pamphleteers.

Meanwhile, 41-year-old doctors Gerry and Kate are meeting fundraising experts as they now have less than £250,000 to continue the worldwide hunt for Maddie.

A source close to the McCanns said: "It's a very worrying time. The money will run out by the end of the year and no one knows where the next lot will come from."
..................................
It is true that money flooded in from wellwishers but I think it fair to say that more and more people are now seeing how the fund is being wasted. The McCanns seem to have no trouble finding competent lawyers but when it comes to private investigators they seem to choose those who say a lot but do nothing. Mitchell has been a complete waste of money from day one and it is clear that all he has managed to do is keep the story going in the papers even if that means dragging innocent people into the limelight. He drummed up loads of scary looking abductors then came up with the idea of changing to someone he knew would make the front page "Posh" followed by the dicks going to Barcelona to track her down. Now lets be fair here, I have spent many hours in the Port and it is a really exciting place with large cruise ships and luxury yachts going in and out, so it would be so easy for Edgar to get wrapped up in all this and forget what he went there for (hmmm).

I am making no comment on Bennett and his leaflet other than to say he has just given more opportunities to Mitchell to spin and it looks to me that they will attempt now to raise more money by suing people (or will they). They have threatened to sue people before then retracted which makes them look stupid IMO, so lets see if they go ahead this time, and if they sue Bennett and not Amaral then I will question why. Maybe they will not sue anyone who will fight back and demand answers which should have been given in the first place.

To conclude, I have always considered the McCanns to be selfish crap parents & whilst I do not think for one minute they should stop looking for their daughter (if she was taken), I do think it is about time they considered the twins who will soon be at school and as time goes on able to read and see what is being said. Have these people learned nothing, when will they realised they are loosing rather than gaining sympathy with their OTT marketing of their child and the nonsensical "new" sightings that hit the press BEFORE being investigated.

That's my rant done with -

Cláudia said...

Hi, Niza.
That 'witness' is very peculiar, to say the least. To be honest, I doubt he even exists.
As for the lawsuit against Tal&Qual, can't say I'm surprised. How could they sue them for saying the Police suspect the saintly duo if they were made arguidos later? No way.
Thank you, Niza. My aunt had her minor surgery yesterday. it went well. let's hope it is the end of the story. My uncle will probably have major surgery next week, if things go as planned.
xxxx

Cláudia said...

Hi, Nancy.
lately, things have been complicated. Let's hope there are no more surprises.
My dad still feels some pain, but manageable without pain medication. thank you. He loves sardines. I hate them! :-)
Couldn't agree with you more. Words are important, of course, but they will never be as important as actions.
have a nice day.
xxxx

Cláudia said...

Hi, Gina.
Interesting that they only seem to be worried about the lack of money. They should be worried about more important things. Let's face it, all the money they were given didn't get them anywhere, did it? Apart from the smoke and mirrors, of course.
They all remind me of a bunch of clowns - the pink thing, M3 and these latest plods (are they???? - (no disrespect for the professional clowns who make so many children around the world happy). I don't believe for one moment that these dicks who belonged to a Police Force are as incompetent as they were made to look. Guess they just have to go along.
One thing definitely good about the leafleting was the awareness. It has been obvious the interest it raised. The stats on this blog confirm it. And that, the search for information, can only be good.
Let them continue digging.
Great rant!
Have a safe trip.

Zodiac said...

Hi Claudia and all,

Claudia I am glad your aunt's surgery went well and hope all goes well for your uncle next week.

Niza post some lotto numbers please!

Hope4truth great to read you here and on 3 A's.

Gina have great trip to the UK.

Dylan if you are reading hugs to you.

BBFN

Lia x

Cláudia said...

Hi, Zodiac.
Thank you. Let's hope so. next week can be quite complicated.
I would mind the lottery numbers either. :-)
Sleep well.
xxxx

Cláudia said...

Dylan, if you're around, hope you're ok. :-)
xxxx

ICantThinkOfAName said...

A big Hi to all my friends. I have not deserted the ship (I often log in to read) but have run out of fresh things to say so that's the reasons for no posts.
On a personal note my big project fizzled out and Georgie Boy has now been sold on.

Claudia
I hope all the family problems resolve themselves and all affected make full recoveries.

ICTOAN
the chocolate fireman.

Cláudia said...

Hi, ICTOAN. :-)))))
Great to read you and to know you are well, despite your project having fizzled. Sorry about Georgie Boy.

I know what you mean about about running out of fresh things to say.

Thank you, ICTOAN. Let's hope for the best.
xxxx

nancy said...

Hi everyone -

Sad to see the 3A's has been disabled. Joana Morais has put the reasons behind this on her blog today. One of the moderators wrote the article. Hopefully they can get over the issues and reopen soon as I think we can all honestly say we will miss it a lot!

nancy said...

Sorry, my last post was a bit misleading. It was actually writtn by Joana herself and not one of the moderators.

Thanks Joana for letting us have the reasons behind the disablement!

Cláudia said...

Hi, Nancy.
Thanks for the news. I hope it will get back to normal soon too.
In the meanwhile, I've been dealing with another family crisis (a retinal detachment) and haven't had any time to think about anything other than that.
xxxx

Anonymous said...

"A source close to the McCanns said: "It's a very worrying time. The money will run out by the end of the year and no one knows where the next lot will come from.""

Thank goodness for Rosie's bestseller. ;-)

Cláudia said...

Hi, Annon!
I had forgotten about that! :-) They have nothing to worry about. With the profits they will be able not only to pay one or two months of mortgage. They will pay off their whole house in a matter of weeks, I'm sure. ;-)

nancy said...

Hi Claudia -

I hope whoever has the detached retina has speedy treatment. I can think of nothing more worrying!

As for the McCann Fund running dry, then it's high time they got rid of their mouthpiece and useless dicks; surely after two years they are able to speak for themselves, but no doubt they worry they will say the wrong thing, especially if speaking off the cuff without the pre-rehearsal!

I can see a new sighting or whatever coming up to get the money rolling in again, although I think the public are getting wise to their moves, especially many of those who have now had the chance to read the MFoundation's 60 reasons leaflet!

Joana Morais has an article on another darling little girl who has gone missing and the parents are coming out with the same sort of unbelievable stuff the McCanns did. I suspect it is a copycat crime to get into the media and make money.The McCanns have a lot to answer for. Although to be fair, the police have arrested the father and a caretaker of the campsite where this little girl was staying. I'm sure they won't have the local government rushing in to protect them - that could only happen in this country!

ICantThinkOfAName said...

Claudia

I hope you will allow me to use your blog to express my sorrow at the deaths and injuries suffered in the landslide at the Algarve beach.

ICTOAN

Cláudia said...

Hi, Nancy.
It's my aunt who has retinal detachment. We are waiting to hear when she'll have surgery. It was supposed to be tomorrow but we're not that sure any more. Thank you.
I don't think they can speak for themselves to be honest...
I agree. People are tired of their crap and the money flow seems to have been interrupted. People are not stupid.
That case you mention is dramatic but interesting. Let's see how it ends.
xxxx

Cláudia said...

Hi, ICTOAN.
Of course.
Thank you so much for your kind words. When I first heard about it they said a person had lost her/his life but there there were people missing. It seems 5 people died. God bless them and their families. And you.
xxxx

nancy said...

Hi Claudia -

I sincerely hope your Aunt's eye op when she has it, is successful!

ICTOAN

Nice to see you again!

I echo those kind words to the relatives of those people who lost their lives in the landslide on the Algarve. Many of us go there for holidays because it is so beautiful.

Life must be lived each day, tht's for sure!

Cláudia said...

Hi, Nancy.
Thanks. I just hope it happens soon. Having a problem in August in Portugal is hell because most people are away on holiday. We already arranged for her to be operated on by one of the best doctors in this country, in a private medical facility. Although it is very expensive, she will have to wait at least until Monday, when the doctor returns. Let's hope all goes well until then.
It was a horrible thing what happened. 4 out of 5 of the deceased were from the same family. Mother, father and two daughters aged 26 and 31. So sad. May God bless them, their families and friends and give them strength.
You're right. Carpe diem/ seize the day...
xxxx