Saturday, July 4, 2009

A good example some should follow

Justice and Delinquency' - Author Rights revert to Child Instituiton


'Justice and Delinquency'

The author rights of the book 'Justice and Delinquency', in the original titled 'Justiça e Delinquência', coordinated by Gonçalo Amaral will revert to an institution to support children at risk. The decision was taken unanimously by all the authors, whom, in a gesture of great dignity and social responsibility have agreed to assign all the author rights for a common good.

In addition to the excellent set of reflections that the book contains and that can help to think about the state of justice in Portugal, the book is also contributing to a better future, fairer and more decent.

The institution to be awarded the author rights of the book is 'Florinhas da Neve', that belongs to the Santa Casa da Misericórdia, in Vila Real, North of Portugal.





http://joana-morais.blogspot.com/2009/07/justice-and-delinquency-author-rights.html

108 comments:

Joana Morais said...

Cláudia, já adicionei a instituição depois de confirmar com o GA. beijinhos, espero que o teu aniversário tenha sido excelente :)

Cláudia said...

Olá, Joaninha! :-)
Obrigada! :-) Vou actualizar!
Foi bom, obrigada! Apesar da dor de garganta.
Mil beijinhos para ti e um milhão de obrigados! :-)
xxxx

Joana Morais said...

Oh, então e cházinho com limão? as melhoras e bjns

Cláudia said...

Olá, Joaninha! :-)
Sabes, vou confessar que não gosto nada de chá. Mas fui medicada e deram-me uma recomendação espectacular: disseram-me para comer o gelado que quisesse! :-) Queres melhor! ;-) Espectáculo! :P
Mil beijocas!

Anonymous said...

This case is going nowhere.

The McCanns have won.

Cláudia said...

That is an extremely interesting thing to say, anon.
No, the McCanns haven't won. The McCanns have lost. A daughter.

lizzy said...

Hi Claudia
You are so right, they have lost a daughter and any normal person, would be devestated, but the Mccanns are all about themselves so they are only concerned with getting away with the responsibility and blame, wierd wierd people. Lizzy

Cláudia said...

Hi, Lizzy.
To be honest, I find that very hard to believe. Their immediate concern may be that one, but I bet they can't escape themvelves. Especially Kate. I would rather be dead than be in their situation and have to live with what they have to live. Whatever that is.
Going to bed.
Great to read you.
xxxx

Anonymous said...

Good Morning, Claudia.

i agree, there is never a winner when children go missing.
some people just cant cant see the wood for the trees.

Anonymous said...

an honourable gesture for a very deserving cause.

Great Oak trees from little acorns grow.

lizzy said...

Hi Claudia,
I agree that most people would be unable to live with the guilt but they do not behave normally and despite 2 years passing have still not come forward with the truth of what happened to their daughter, clearly their priority has to be self preservation rather than the truth...just my opinion Lizzy x

nancy said...

Hi all - beautiful weather here again!

Goncalo Amaral is so right in his assertion (McCann Files today) that advertising a child who has been abducted by a paedophile would almost certainly mean instant death. Also the fact that paedophiles invariably kill their victim after they have satisfied their perversion.

I cannot understand any parent putting their child's life at risk by setting up a world wide media campaign and sales of goods link on the web. And these were two supposedly intelligent doctors!

Poor Madeleine didn't stand a chance!

What they should have done, if they really think she is still alive, is made the offer of £1 million for her safe return at the outset. I notice in the Daily Mail their advertisement states a reward, but much less than a million pounds and in very dark print at the bottom of the picture - hardly noticeable, and a lot too late if you ask me!

JUSTICE FOR MADELEINE BETH MCCANN!

Cláudia said...

Hi, anon 1.
I agree.

Cláudia said...

Hi, anon 2.
A lesson some should learn and follow...

Cláudia said...

Hi, Lizzy.
I agree about the priority. But don't believe they can escape themselves. Nobody can. Where are they? Where is Kate? Except from the Oprah appearance, when was she last seen? Prison can be inside of any of us...
xxxx

Cláudia said...

Hi, Nancy.
If there was what had happened, publicising Madeleine's image, especially her eye detail, would be signing her death sentence. And the Police told them that.
The silence regarding the reward is, to say the least, very interesting.
Have a nice day!
xxxx

Anonymous said...

Hi Cláudia,

Sadly, this is really going to gone on for years. Lies Lies Lies and fabricated stories.

The twins will soon hear stories at school from friends, read about Maddie headlines in newspaper's.

This is too cruel to another 2 young children. They won't be physically harmed and maybe no evidence they will be mentally harmed.

How will the kids when their parents leave them alone whilst they wine and dine in their back garden?

When the likes of Clarence and others leave their jobs in the circus, the McCanns will be completely on their own.

As a Chinese saying goes, you can never smother fire with paper....

Ray

Cláudia said...

Hi, Ray.
I feel as sorry for the twins as I do for Madeleine. Two different kinds of suffering. But suffering is suffering.

docmac said...

"This case is going nowhere.

The McCanns have won.

July 4, 2009 10:25 PM"

LOL! There is a way to go yet, anon.

Hi Claudia.

Cláudia said...

Hi, amigo! :-)
Great to read you. Thanks for the text message. :-)
Had quite an eventful day. My 73 (and a half) year old father seems to think he is 40 so he fell off a tree. Yes, a tree. Because he must think he's in his 40's, despite being in pain he drove home. It took me an hour of screaming and yelling (and mentioning things such as wheelchair and pneumothorax) to convince him to go to the hospital. Fortunately after blood tests, an x-ray and an ultrasound he was told there was nothing broken and was sent home with pain medication.
Really tired but suspecting I may not be able to fall asleep soon.
xxxx

lizzy said...

Hi Claudia,
You are right of course, she has not been seen for ages and as you say has to live with what she has done. But my sympathy does not lie with her or her husband but their children whose lives have been ruined by their actions.
I hope you havae had a good Birthday Claudia.....Love Lizzy x

nancy said...

Hi Claudia -

Pleased to hear that everything is alright with your father after his fall! At his age he must be in good nick to be able to climb the tree in the first place! Still young at heart it seems.

Hi Docmac -

So nice to read you and you are right - there is a long way to go yet. The McCanns and their tapas pals are certainly not out of the woods yet!

Primavera (35041 on 3A's) is translating Goncalo's book from French into English. She has got up to chapter 5 which can be seen on her site:

goncaloamaraltruthofthelie.blogspot.com

The McCann's are doing everything in their power to stop his book being published in Great Britain of course, so I for one am very grateful to Primavera for her unenviable task!

Have a good day everyone!

Nx

Cláudia said...

Hi, Lizzy.
I had a good birthday, thank you.
Their inner prison doesn't awake my sympathy either, in any way. But I think it exists. In fact, I hope all their days and nights are as bad and lonely as Madeleine's evenings during their vacation.
xxxx

Cláudia said...

Hi, Nancy.
I think that's why he does these things. He feels very much in shape and as he looks a lot younger than he is, he actually believes it.
He's ok, thank you. But in pain, of course. I hope the pain reminds him that he is, in fact, 73 and that he shouldn't be climbing trees. He was lucky and we were all relieved after the exams and blood tests.
I confess I haven't checked Primavera's translation because I've barely been online apart from checking my e-emails and moderating comments. But I'll do it as soon as I have the time. I'm sure it's great work. I appreciate the work one has to put in translating things.
Have a great day!
xxxx

nancy said...

Hi Claudia -


I managed to get on here again after having sent you an e-mail saying I couldn't! I changed to Google and it's worked, so you can ignore my e-mail.

I have been catching up with GA's book on Primavera's thread on the 3A's. Great to be able to read his book after all this time and her translation is amazing. You doing translations must know just how tiring it is and you do it for a living!

However, I'm sorry to see that very few people are now blogging on the 3A's - I suppose apathy is beginning to set in and also there's not much McCann news at the moment, but I expect we'll hear about another sighting before very long!

I hope you father continues to get better.


Nx

dylan said...

Hi all!

Sorry I've been away for a bit - I still have computer problems and now it keeps crashing because it's overheating. I've bought a flash drive to back up my files before I have it cleaned

Hear, hear for this Cláudia: "No, the McCanns haven't won. The McCanns have lost. A daughter."

Docmac, I agree. There is a long way to go and it aint over by any means!

Hope your sprightly father is on the mend,Cláudia. Bless him!

Good luck to GA et al with the book.

xxx

Cláudia said...

Hi, Nancy.
Just read your e-mail and replied. Glad you made it here and things are back to normal.
I'm completely unaware of what is going on online. The only thing I have been able to do lately on a regular basis is checking my e-mail.
A translation is something hard to do. That is why I have the greatest admiration for Astro and Joana's work. As well as Primavera's, of course, although I haven't read it.
I translate but as a part-time thing. Mainly only when I'm asked and usually by people who I already know. Have worked a lot with PhD students who really need translations to progress in their academic careers. And have also done a bit of work on statistics which is the most boring thing ever. All this to say that it is not my main activity. :-)
I think we are all suffering from McCann fatigue. And understandably so.
HAd a terrible night. HAve only slpt 5 hours in the last two nights. My dad was having very severe pain and sleeping was impossible. Finally, around 5 am I convinced him to go to the hospital again. They changed the medication to something stronger but he has to deal with the idea of having to endure quite some pain during a few days.
let's all hope tonight is better. Thanks for your kind wishes.
xxxx

Cláudia said...

Hi, Dylan.
Are you on a laptop? If so, that's a common problem with laptops. Why don't you buy one of those fashionable fans? I was told it works. Great idea (flash drive)!
Dad is feeling a bit better after the terrible night I just described to Nancy.
With all these things (dad, uncle and work) have been having very little time to be around.
It's great to read you.
xxxx

Anonymous said...

Hi Cláudia, yes I'm on a lap top. I didn't realise it was a common problem, I just thought we had excessive dust in our house ;-)

I'm very sorry you've had all of these things to worry about. And over your birthday period too. Hopefully, things will all be better and your nearsest and dearest recover and then you can have a proper celebration. Maybe even your one glass of champers for the year?

I am all McCanned out now too, TBH. I'm sick of the wretched pair and quite thankfull we have a news break from them. I'm glad you have this sight for the PJ as they were unlucky to have been landed with the case and I'm always glad to hear of news about GA and I wish him all the best. I'll still be hear as long as my moth-ridden laptop allows!!

Anyway, bye for now and take care.

Dylan xxx

Cláudia said...

Hi, Dylan.
Yes, it is very common. It's not because of the dust. :-)
To be honest, it's not uncommon for unpleasant things to happen around my birthday period. Although I only slept around 3 hours, last night was better. My dad dealt with the pain in a better way and was feeling a bit better. Hope he goes back to his normal self soon. Thanks for your kind wishes.
I haven't had the time to think about that distasteful pair but haven't missed them. :-) I'm just sorry they didn't holiday in Burkina Faso, for instance. :-)
Looking forward to reading you again soon.
Have a nice day.
xxxx

Gina said...

Hi Claudia and all

Have been looking in but not commented because like you, I am McCanned out. I was interested in the Docs reply to Anon. that there is a long way to go yet.

I know I am not the sharpest tool in the box but to be honest I cannot see where this can go now. The pro McCanns will agree that the McCanns are doing & have done everything possible to get new clues and leads and we all know that is going nowhere other than generating publicity. And the antis know what has been done to try and get this case to court etc etc etc. so IMO, far short of a miracle or a confession nothing else will happen or am I missing something obvious???

Cláudia said...

Hi, Gina.
Sorry for taking this long but the very little time I have been having lately has been dedicated to sleep and can be counted in minutes rather than in hours.
I think you'll have to ask Doc about that. :-)
I have to confess that in the last few weeks I haven't read much online. I check my e-mails probably twice a day and take a look at Joana's blog because I know if there's something new it will be there. Apart from that, I've been living in real life and dealing with my/our own problems so the infamous pair has been far from my mind. I know that if something big happened I would get a few calls in a question of minutes.
Hope you're ok.

gina said...

Hi Claudia,

Yes I am ok thanks, doing pretty much the same as you and not bothering to look for any more news on the McCanns because what there is is only about "holiday packs" and new hope for them now a child has been found after 6 years. (only problem with that story was it was not true).

I am sure if the doc has any ideas as to where this can go now he will share them at some point. I was just interested to know what he thought could happen because like I said I could not see it going anywhere.

Thankfully its seems that most sites both pro and anti have ground to be bit of a halt because I think everybody realises now that same old is not worth reading and all the personal abuse is futile and pointless.

Off now back to the real world, take care all

nancy said...

Hi Claudia and everyone -

Very quiet lately McCannwise, but an interesting thread on 3A's.

The McCanns have issued a statement to that downmarket toilet roll, The Mirror (who have since whoosh-clunked the article) claiming that they are going to sue Goncalo Amaral over his book for the following sums:

(So clever how they waited for him to accrue enough money before deciding to do this. It's all about money with that couple)!

£430,000 damages for Madeleine, to be used to continue the search for her.

£215,000 each for the parents for emotional distress - they suffer permanent anxiety, insomnia, lack of appetite, irritability, and an indefinable fear.

(Not really surprising after managing to lose their 4 year old daughter whilst on holiday through their own stupidity and utter selfishness).

£86,000 for each of the twins, Sean and Amelie.

They've obviously read the book and are now running scared.

To quote the name of one of the 3A's subscribers:

GO GET 'EM GONCALO!


JUSTICE FOR MADELEINE!

docmac said...

Hi Claudia, Nancy, Dyl, Gina et al

Gina, re Claudia's reply to you:
;-)

Hope all are well, especially your dad and friend, Claudia. Missed your birthday? Now you are old :-)

Cláudia said...

Hi, Gina.
Of everybody else is dealing with similar things as I am, it's only natural that things are calm. When real life calls you, all the rest goes away. There is nothing more important than the people you love. Nothing. And if we all remembered that, there would be no Madeleine McCann cases out there.
Take care too.

Cláudia said...

Hi, Nancy.
I have to confess that despite everything I couldn't avoid a smile when I read your comment. Loved the figures! :-) Better than winning the lottery... ;-) Have to read the article when I have the time. Now I'm counting on sleeping a couple of hours because I only slept 3 hours tonight. Was on the night watch despite my dad saying it was not necessary. But you know how things are. When you're worried about the people you love, there's no sleeping and no eating. Well, most of us, anyway.
Have a nice Sunday.
xxxx

docmac said...

"permanent anxiety, insomnia, lack of appetite, irritability, and an indefinable fear", Nancy?

Let me define that for you. It's the fear that they will still be brought to justice for what they did. Simple as..

Cláudia said...

Hi, Doc. :-)
Good to read you.
My dad seems to be ok apart from the pain. I'm still trying to find out if the pain is really that bad or if it is bad from a man's point of view. :-) Because those are two very different scales. :-)
Wouldn't have minded turning 30 at all if it wasn't for what happened around my birthday period. Oh well, let's hope everything goes well.
Muitos beijinhos.
xxxx

Cláudia said...

Hi, Doc.
I can only hope those feelings described in that sentence are, in fact, true because they are the kind of fears any normal parent in their situation would have. Not because of a book, of course. But because of the simple fact a child is missing because she was left alone in a resort room in a foreign country to babysit her 2 year old twin brother and sister.
xxxx

docmac said...

Left alone. Is that all? You have mellowed with age, amiga. I am as virulently anti those despicable doctors as ever. I wish them only ill and I fervently hope that they never sleep peacefully again.

Preferably holed up in separate, freezing cells with only roaches and unidentifiable food for company.

docmac said...

Gotta go now.

Speak to you soon, amiga.

Cláudia said...

Hi, amigo.
No, I didn't. Believe me, my thought haven't changed a bit. I might not be online as much for obvious reasons but I don't think any differently. I hold them completely and absolutely responsible for whatever happened. Madeleine's fate is their responsibility. They were her parents. They were the ones who had the obligation to protect her and they not only failed miserably but also refused to take responsibility. I wish their days and nights reflect Madeleine's when she was left alone.
Funny, I hadn't thought of those two in quite some time.
Just sent you an e-mail, amigo. A long, technical one. Sorry. :-)
Hope I'll read you soon.
I'll try to sleep a couple of hours now. Really need it.
xxxx

Zetta said...

"Goncalo Amaral is so right in his assertion (McCann Files today) that advertising a child who has been abducted by a paedophile would almost certainly mean instant death.

Also the fact that paedophiles invariably kill their victim after they have satisfied their perversion."


Assuming that a missing child has been taken by a paedophile, it means that the most probable outcome is death whatever is done - or not. In that case, surely the best thing to do is to let as many people as possible know about a missing child to be able to at least have a chance of getting to them before anything happens.

Zetta said...

Cláudia, in my opinion, man-pain is woman-pain to the power of 5.At least that's the impression I get!

Anonymous said...

Hi all,

Good to read you again Doc :-)

Hi Gina too. I think we're all fed up of that pair now and all I can do is hope that justice will someday come for little M.

Nancy, I bet they don't dare sue GA. Must be an empty threat but we shall see!

Hope you've managed to get some sleep Cláudia.

BFN

Dylan xxx

nancy said...

Hi Docmac -

Good to read you - we need you to stem the apathy that most of us are feeling over this case.

As far as taking GA to court, I won't hold my breath!

They are far too clever to put themselves in a position where they actually have to speak for themselves!

It's all pie in the sky just to keep Madeleine's name out there so people who have been stupid enough to cough up for their Find Madeleine Fund will continue to do so!

See you later!

nancy said...

HI CLAUDIA -

GET A GOOD NIGHT'S SLEEP - 12 HOURS OR SO, AS IT WON'T DO YOUR DAD ANY GOOD IF YOU MAKE YOURSELF ILL.

AS YOU SAY, MEN DO TEND TO PILE ON THE AGONY WHEN ILL DON'T THEY?

MIND YOU, HE IS ADVANCED IN YEARS TO WITHSTAND A FALL FROM A TREE. WAS HE VERY HIGH UP BY THE WAY?

nancy said...

Claudia -

Dilon is having a few problems with her computer at the moment so don't think she has stopped blogging.

Cláudia said...

Hi, Zetta.
I agree with you in the case of an abduction by a paedophile. In those cases we all know what the fate of the child is in a huge majority of the cases in many times in a matter of hours. However, when the motivation is another one, I do believe that revealing too much information about the child may mean signing her/his death sentence. If the abductor feels trapped, it's easy to imagine what the result may be. Whatever the case is I think police advice is the way to go. Always. It's like going to the doctor and then doing the opposite of what he/she advises.

I think I have to agree. It seems man pain is different. I remember when I broke my arm suffering quite a lot of pain but I endured it silently.
Today was the first day my dad dealt with the pain reasonably well. Let's hope it continues like that and that the pain goes away completely soon.
xxxx

Cláudia said...

Hi, Dylan.
I did, thank you. In various stages, but I did. 2 or 3 hours at night, one hour in the morning and 2 hours in the afternoon. Have to keep checking the calendar to see what day it is. :-)
Thank you for asking.
xxxx

Cláudia said...

Hi, NAncy.
Yes, I know about Dylan's internet connection problems but she seems to have managed to post today. :-) Thank you for warning me, though. :-)
I know it's what I should do but I can't. I even took a sleeping pill last night but I still woke up every one and a half/two hours to check on him. But it's ok. When his pain goes away and he's back to his normal self, I'll sleep 2 days in a row. :-)
Yes, men seem to experience pain in a bit more 'realistic' way than women. That's why women are the ones who have cramps and who give birth. :-) They couldn't do it.
My dad is very lucky to be in a good shape for his age and for having strong bones. From what he told me he fell from around 2.5 - 3 meters high. Too high given his age. In fact, the perfect height for him should be feet on the ground. I've been nagging him so much you can't even imagine. :-)
Thank you for caring, Nancy.
xxxx

nancy said...

Hi Claudia -

Your dad has obviously passed on his reaching for the sky attitude to you!

Hope your situation improves soon and you are able to get that long long sleep!

Glad to see Dylan managed to post alright.

Cláudia said...

Hi, Nancy.
That's a very generous way to put it. But yes, I take after my dad in my aspects. I just moan a lot less but that's probably because I'm a woman. :-)
He's getting better, fortunately. But I still wake up lots of times at night to check on him. Not because he needs it but because I can't help it. It's hard to sleep when you're worried. He just went for a walk and a cup of coffee with my mother(against my advice of course). Let's hope he doesn't come home in pain.
Have a great day.
xxxx

lizzy said...

Hi Claudia,
I was wondering with the latest news on the 3 Arguidos re the Mccanns action re the sueing of Goncola Amaral whether there is any news of his counter sue?
I find it hard to believe they have the audacity to sue a man who did his utmost to find their daughter and get to the truth of the matter, when all they did was to try to sabotage the police investigation and make as much money as possible out of the demise of their daughter. I only hope their bluff is called and the case reopened due to the new evidence they have supplied in naming all these false suspects, that would be what they deserve. I hope your dad is recovering well Lizzy x

Cláudia said...

Hi, Lizzy.
As far as I'm aware (and I'm not exactly up up date news wise) the Portuguese press has completely ignored the latest news from the British press.
My dad is getting better, thank you. But he will only be ok when he's pain free, which he still isn't. You know how men are...
xxxx

nancy said...

Hi Lizzy,

Cases can often take forever to get to the Courts so we are all going to have to be very patient.

I, for one, think that hell will freeze over before the McCanns face Goncalo in Court.

I hope I'm proved wrong though.

What really makes me angry is the fact that GA is having such difficulty in getting his book published in English.

There must be a reason for this and I don't think it's the McCanns alone who are preventing publication. I think GA is being prevented from publishing due to some faceless people out there who are out to get him for their own reasons.

Even Salman Rushdie managed to get his book published which gave offence to millions of Muslims worldwide!

Fortunately, Primavera of the 3A's is doing an excellent translation.

This is the most mysterious case ever to hit the headlines in my opinion.

lizzy said...

Hi Claudia,
Glad your Dad is so much better and hope he is soon pain free as do not what men are like...
Lizzy x

lizzy said...

Hi Nancy,
I agree its a shame the book is not in English yet, am tempted to buy a French copy as I understand French although not as well as English so may wait, am sure it will be in English at some stage. I wonder if it may reach America first? Or do you think he is findiing it hard to find a reputable publisher who will do this? I think that the Mccanns are desperate to avoid the public getting access to this book as they know the game is up once people read the unbiased truth...Lizzy x

Cláudia said...

Hi, Lizzy.
Thank you. Keeping the man home isn't easy. After bed he fells ok so wants to go out. When he comes back he is obviously tired and in pain. Men...
xxxx

Zodiac said...

Hi Claudia and all,

Just a quick hello.

Claudia hope your Dad is on the mend.

Belated 30th Birthday wishes Claudia!

Will be back blogging soon. I have just had a wonderful holiday and see I have a lot of reading to catch up with on the Blog.

Will be back soon,

Love,

Lia.
xxx

Anonymous said...

Claudia krida, estimo as melhoras do teu papá! Que a recuperação seja rápida para bem de todos. Realmente, homens e dores não fazem bom cocktail. Muitos beijinhos da lili xxxxxxxxx

lizzy said...

Hi Claudia,
I know your Dad is a typical man but suppose its good he wants to be active, hope hes better soon. Lizzy x

Cláudia said...

Olá, minha querida Lili.
Obrigada.
Ando tão cansada. Preciso tanto de dormir. Mas dormir de cabeça limpa e tranquila, que é coisa que não tenho feito ultimamente. Apanhei um grande susto. OS homens só fazem asneiras. E não estou disposta a rever esta minha posição tão cedo. :-)
Homens e dores é de fugir. Enfim...
Mil beijinhos agradecidos.
xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

Cláudia said...

Hi, Zodiac.
Thank you, times two. :-)
Great to read you again. You've been missed.
Hope you had a great time.
xxxx

Cláudia said...

Hi, Lizzy.
On the one hand it's great to have a 73 year old dad like I have. I am aware of that and I am very thankful for it. On the other hand, it makes me nervous because I know he does this kind of thing. When he's away or on holiday I call him a lot because I need to know what he's up to. :-)
He's feeling ok. He just needs to get rid of the remaining pain. Thank you. :-)
xxxx

nancy said...

Hi Lizzy -

You can read the excellent translation into English by Primavera of 3A's on:

http://thetruthofthelie.blogspot.com/2009/06/madeleine-mccann-forbidden.html.

It's in easy reading chapters and she is currently up to Chapter 14.

They are discussing it on 3A's too.

Anonymous said...

Hi all,

Good to "see" you Zodiac and I'm glad you've had a lovely holiday.

How is your father now Cláudia? I hope he is on the mend and pain free.

I have heard of news of other people being sued by the gruesome twosome but can't say who. Shocking all the same, the funds must be getting really low. They can try all they like IMO, but they'll not succeed unless they are prepared to go to court, which, in that case, they will have a lot of questions to answer themselves.

Off now as I'm really tired but will try to be back if laptop allows!

Dylan xxx

Zodiac said...

Hi Claudia and all!

Claudia your post about your 73 year-old Dad climbing a tree reminded me of "Plant a Tree in '73". My school was visited by Prince Charles and he planted the first tree as we all stood by and waved our little Union Jack flags! We then planted trees and were given mugs to commemorate the occassion. I can still remember him arriving in his big black car and stepping out and waving at us all. Although now I am an adult I would have preferred to have been waving a Saltire!

'Anonymous said...
This case is going nowhere.

The McCanns have won.

July 4, 2009 10:25 PM'

Won what?? Hmm I wonder if their missing child considers herself a winner in whatever situation she may or may not find herself in? The same then 3-year-old child they chose to leave, along with her then 2-year-old twin siblings, night after night on their family holiday with no adult supervision! The same 3-year-old child who cried when they were out and asked them at breakfast: Where were you when Sean and I cried? The winners then chose to leave their 3 children alone again! I personally think the comment 'The McCanns have won.' should be treated with the contempt it is worthy of! Just like I think the Muck comment that their behaviour was well within the bounds of responsible parenting should be treated with the contempt it is worthy of also!

BBFN

Cláudia said...

Hello, everybody.
Too tired to write individually. :-)

Great link, Nancy. Thank you.
xxxx

Hi, Dylan.
My dad is feeling better, thank you. But still not pain free. I think it will probably take a couple of weeks.
As for the rest, I would use the word 'prank'. ;-)
xxxx

Hi, Zodiac! LOL
Personally, I think I would rather die than be in their shoes. Whatever happened. Can you imagine going through life and having to deal with the fact that whatever happened to your daughter happened because you were having dinner elsewhere and having fun with friends?
xxxx

Anonymous said...

Good morning all!

Rotten weather here again but at least yesterday we had thunderstorms, which I love!

Re Cláudia's quote:
"Personally, I think I would rather die than be in their shoes. Whatever happened. Can you imagine going through life and having to deal with the fact that whatever happened to your daughter happened because you were having dinner elsewhere and having fun with friends? "

There is a new thread on 3as entitled "How depressed are the McCanns?" and it seems Kate has been claiming she is depressed since the release of GA's book. As far as I'm aware, there are two types of depression where Clinical Depression is not due to any apparent outside reason for it and the other (just known as depression, I think), is due to external reasons such as grieving or suffering a loss of job etc.

It seems that Kate falls into the latter in this instance, but what I find incredible is that she suffers from it after GA's book, but not when M went missing? Beggars belief! What that tells me is that the so-called depression, is due to the worry of being caught out in their lie. JMO of course!

Have a good weekend guys :-)

Dylan xxx

J J said...

Hello Claudia

I've been away for a while and I know it will take me ages to catch up.
Take care of your Dad. My dad died when I was 13 years old and I still miss him.

Cláudia said...

Hi, Dylan.
So, a mother and a father have a child missing for more than 2 years but are depressed about a book? I'm not even going to comment on that. But mabe it really is true. At least judging by some photos taken shortly after the 'disappearance', if you know what I mean...
Have a great weekend.
xxxx

Cláudia said...

Hi, JJ.
There is nothing more important in people's lives than our loved ones. I'm sorry about your loss. My mum lost her mum and dad when she was 12 and 13. Very sad.
I know how blessed and lucky I am for having my mum and dad with me. And I thank God for that.
Hope you're ok.
xxxx

Zodiac said...

Hi Claudia and all,

Dylan wrote:

'Kate has been claiming she is depressed since the release of GA's book.'

'but what I find incredible is that she suffers from it after GA's book, but not when M went missing? Beggars belief! What that tells me is that the so-called depression, is due to the worry of being caught out in their lie. JMO
of course!

Hi Dylan,

Imo it tells me they are not depressed merely green with envy and livid that that Goncalo has written a best selling book, made a video, has eminent professional people supporting him and a huge amount of support from the worldwide public also! Gonacalo has and is doing what they thought they would be doing except he imo is doing it for the missing child! Imo they also despise the Internet and view it as a huge thorn in their side. However if the Internet were a cheerleading service about them and their cause then they would love it and imo they would consider the Internet as the best thing since sliced bread!

BBFN

Cláudia said...

Hi, Zodiac.
Strange depression... ;-)
xxxx

Anonymous said...

Hi Zodiac,

I think you're right too. They must be absolutely gutted the www has all of the muck on them spread across various sights. Does a better job than a combine! I also don't think they bargained for the general public having a mind of their own and being able to put two an two together.
IMO, it looks really bad on Kate saying she is depressed now. What I meant is that she never said this in the early days after MBM went missing. If they were innocent of any involvement, surely the loss of their daughter would have caused the deepest of depressions. Instead, they went out jogging, playing tennis and golf, beamed with joy on her fourth birthday and raked in the cash. The timing of the depression now is somewhat of an anomaly!

I'm off on holiday Friday so I won't be around for a week.

Take care everyone and have a good week. Hope things are looking up for your family now, Cláudia.

Dylan xxx

nancy said...

Hi Claudia, Dylan, Zodiac et al,

Things are very quiet on the 3M's front K,G,McCann and C.Mitchell - no sightings for at least a couple of months! Something is bound to happen soon to bring them back into the spotlight! Probably a sighting in outer space!

Someone on 3a's was saying how old CM is looking these days - guilty conscience, or has he lost his faith in his employers these days? After all, he's not earning big bucks from them so maybe he is thinking about joining the breadline! I doubt the government would want him back - too much of a liability I reckon!

It's taken the Mc's a long time to get depressed. All the evidence from photos of them a few days after Madeleine's disappearance, i.e. her birthday; they were smiling all over their faces while holding out a huge picture of Maddie. How odd is that? And many other photos taken since, apart from when they are giving interviews and know they are on camera, shows them happy, relaxed and smiling. So they don't fool the majority of people I'm sure.

If they are depressed it is of their own making. If they had come clean about what happened and not covered up for themselves and their tapas pals, maybe it would have gone some way to ease their burdens, but not Madeleine's of course.

Cláudia said...

Hi, Dylan and Nancy.
I have a feeling they get more and more depressed every time they check the donation buttons of the fund...

Dylan, for the first time my dad spent the night without any pain medication. Felt a bit of pain but was able to manage it without medication. For a man that must mean the pain is quite manageable. :-) Have been reading some stuff on rib cage trauma and apparently it takes some weeks for the pain to go away. It seems that's the way it is.

As for my uncle, things are complicated. Let's wait and see and hope for the best.

xxxx

nancy said...

Hi Dylan -

Have a great holiday and come back rested and ready for anything!!

I hope you and the kids have good weather too!

Hi Claudia -

So glad to hear your dad is improving. I know that a broken rib can give the most awful pain, so hopefully your Dad's ribcage is is just bruised and not broken.

Nx

Cláudia said...

Hi, Nancy.
My dad did 2 x-rays and the doctors told him that nothing was broken, fortunately. So, yes, apparently it is only bruised. But even so, the doctor told him that he would have a recovery time of at least 3 to 4 weeks. Rib trauma is painful. She also said that even if he had broken one or two ribs, as long as the lung wasn't compromised, they wouldn't also intervene. The only thing to be done would be pain medication and rest.
Fortunately, since yesterday morning he is off paracetamol. We are only using Voltaren Emulgel, a topical cream against pain.
Thank you.
xxxx

Cláudia said...

Hi, Dylan.
I forgot to wish you a great holiday (sorry, I blame the sleep deprivation). I hope you have a great time and get back rested and relaxed.
If my dad gets back to his normal self soon and my uncle doesn't have surgery in the next month, I'll probably take some time off too. I really need it.
You'll be missed.
xxxx

Zodiac said...

Hi Claudia and all,

Thanks Claudia I followed the link and got here.

Claudia I did not realise that your dad had bruised his ribs the poor soul must have been in pain just breathing.

Dylan and Nancy little clapping hands icon for your posts.

Dylan,

'Does a better job than a combine!'

LOL! Och now I cannot get that 'I've got a Brand New Combine Harvester' song out of my head!
Have a great holiday Dylan.

Cláudia said...

Hi, Zodiac.
Yep, he did. And he was quite lucky not to have broken anything. He bruised his ribs on the right side. Everything was painful. Walking, breathing, getting up, getting down, yawning and let's not even mention coughing or sneezing.
Although he still feels pain, it's much better know. Deep breaths or yawning isn't painful any more, thank God.
Have a great weekend.
xxxx

Cláudia said...

Just to let you know that I on't probably be around in the next days. So if your comments don't get published, don't worry. It's in fact a good sign because it will mean I'm relaxing with those I love somewhere where the ocean is close by. :-)
xxxx

nancy said...

Claudia - have a great holiday and come back well rested!

Hi everyone else - have a great weekend - looks like lots of sunshine in the UK for a change!

An article about the Robert Murat investigation on Joana Morais - he really did himself no favours deciding to assist the PJ's poor chap! I still think there was some connection between him and the McCanns though - such a coincidence he came back to PdeL just before them and also the way GM hesitated when asked if he knew him and the famous 'no comment'! However, he could have said that to maybe try to incriminate him - who knows!

See you all again when Claudia returns.

Nx

Cláudia said...

Hi, Nancy.
Great weather here too.
Still not sure if I will have some days off, but hoping I do. Anyway, it won't be a holiday. Not yet. And not my kind of holiday. :-)
But thank you. :-)
Enjoy the good weather.
xxxx

Zodiac said...

'It's in fact a good sign because it will mean I'm relaxing with those I love somewhere where the ocean is close by. :-)'

Sounds lovely Claudia enjoy!

Read you all when Claudia returns.

Love Lia x

Cláudia said...

Hi, Zodiac. It does.
Let's hope tomorrow this time it's a reality. It depends on how Mr Superman feels. :-)
xxxx

Zetta said...

Have a good time going wherever you are going, Cláudia.

Don't forget your bucket and spade! :-)

Cláudia said...

Hi, Zetta.
I love the sea but I'm not a fan of the beach. I'm not patient enough to be there, doing nothing and waiting for something that will never happen (me getting tanned). :-)
Let's hope tomorrow is the the day.
xxxx

Zodiac said...

'It depends on how Mr Superman feels. :-)'

Claudia LOL! If your dad says hmm you know I think I could climb a tree today. You'll know he is well enough to go to the beach!

BBFN

Cláudia said...

Hi, Zodiac!
LOL! I think Superman won't look at trees in the same way for quite some time... Nights are still difficult. Doing acupuncture to see if it helps.
Hope you're ok. :-)
xxxx

Cláudia said...

Hi, guys.
Home for a couple of days before going on holiday (again, if you can say that), if everything goes as planned.
Hope you are all well.
xxxx

Zodiac said...

Hi Claudia and all,

Have a great holiday Claudia. Hope all is well and your dad is feeling better. Thinking of your Uncle and hope he is comfortable.

Love Lia

Cláudia said...

Hi, Zodiac.
Thank you.
Dad is feeling a bit better but still having pain. Sleeping is what's more difficult.
Uncle is the same. It's a waiting game, now.
Hope you're ok, Zodiac.
xxxx

docmac said...

Hope you are enjoying your break, amiga. And that your parents are OK. xxx

Zodiac said...

Hi Claudia,

Just wanted to post this here. I cannot believe what I have read.

FROM http://www.thisisleicestershire.co.uk/n ... ticle.html
Mr Mitchell said:

"We have a good, ongoing relationship with Leicestershire police and they keep Kate and Gerry informed of any movements in the case"

HE SAYS THE LP KEEP G & K INFORMED OF ANY MOVEMENTS IN THE CASE.
YET IN A SIC INTERVIEW FILMED ON 11MAY 2009 AND BROADCAST ON 12 MAY 2009
Gerry McCann says this: 'It's also true to say that, you know, we are the only people pro-actively trying to get new leads, and that's... that's quite hard to say but, you know, the onu... the onus has fallen on us to keep looking for Madeleine.'


FROM http://www.thisisleicestershire.co.uk/n ... ticle.html
"But they are at the behest of the Portuguese authorities who are running the case, even though it has been technically shelved by them. Under European law, the Portuguese police must ask them to do things."

HERE HE SAYS THE LP ARE AT THE BEHEST OF THE PJ WHO ARE RUNNING THE CASE. THE TECHNICALLY SHELVED CASE THAT NOT THAT LONG AGO THE TEAM IMPLIED AT EVERY OPPORTUNITY WAS A CLOSED CASE! WHAT THINGS IS IT THE PORTUGUESE POLICE MUST ASK THE LP TO DO? WHAT THINGS ARE REQUIRED OF THE LP AT THE BEHEST OF PJ UNDER EUROPEAN LAW IN A CASE WHERE NO AUTHORITY IS LOOKING FOR A MISSING CHILD?

FROM http://www.thisisleicestershire.co.uk/n ... ticle.html
"Nevertheless, we know Leicestershire continue to maintain a presence and are still working on the case."

Yet Kate McCann says this on:

The Oprah Show 04 May 2009

Oprah: Are the Portuguese Police still looking?

Gerry: Well what's happened is erm the file is officially closed and it, and that was a really difficult period because in Portugal they have a thing called Judicial Secrecy and you're not meant to know what's going on but that was closed last July and then we were given the files on DVD in Portuguese so we have a small err team which is funded from erm Madeleine's Fund and we really hope that people who were in Praia da Luz who might have information and we've asked the local community in Portuguese to come forward and again in combination with a sighting so you know this for us this is a very active search and Kate...

Kate: ...there's no....

Gerry: Kate spends...

Kate: ...there's no law enforcement agency though actively looking for Madeleine I mean obviously you know

Gerry: the onus is on us which you know is pretty frustrating actually

Kate: ...we're driving this

Gerry: ...but as parents you've just got, got to do everything.


EVERYTHING BUT THIS EH!:

July 29, 2009
Open Letter - Doubts on the McCann Process
http://joana-morais.blogspot.com


http://www.mccannfiles.com/id245.html
Missing Children-Madeleine McCann Pt2 of2 This Morning interview on 18/05/09 @ 7.54 onwards GM says that what GA is saying is pretty much detrimental to the search and if people believe what GA is saying there can't be an ongoing sssearch and what they are certain about from info they have is there is absolutely no evidence blah..blah..! Why should anything GA say have an effect on the search??

Cláudia said...

Posting from my mobile. Just wanted to tell you that I have always suspected Vicky! ;-) xxx

Zodiac said...

'Posting from my mobile. Just wanted to tell you that I have always suspected Vicky! ;-) xxx'

Claudia LOL! LOL!

Hope you are having a great holiday.

Niza said...

I also find interest that woman have Australia or New Zeland accent. Didn't Kate work in New Zeland long time ago?

nancy said...

Hi Claudia - I hope you are having a nice break and will be back blogging soon. We miss you!

This latest 'sighting' is nothing but a load of b......s, in my opinion.

After watching the Pinky and Perky performance where they call a huge press interview only to keep the most important information of who the guy was and what he really said to themselves!

And showing the so screamingly and totally 'unlookalike VB picture' public throughout the globe will only go to make certain sure that if Madeleine was abducted by her, that she will dye her hair, leave Australia or whatever and make doubly sure that Madeleine is disposed of pronto!

Anyway, my opinion is that Murdoch, who owns all these sleaze papers in the UK and Australia, is behind this worldwide campaign, and no doubt he was behind all the others, to sell his vile newspapers! The industry is going to the dogs after all!


Nx

Cláudia said...

Hello, all.
I'm back but will probably need a week to recover from my holidays! :-)
Hope you are all well.
xxxx

Cláudia said...

Hi, Amigo.
Thank you.
My parents are ok. Dad is feeling less pain now, fortunately.
As for the rest, things are complicated.
I texted you but I'm not sure you got the text message as I bought a new mobile phone.
Will post your piece as soon as this latest VB look alike madness goes away. ;-)
Missed you.
xxxx

Cláudia said...

Hi, Zodiac.
Great investigation work. :-)
They do have a difficult relationship with the truth, don't they? :-)
Hope you're well.
xxxx

Cláudia said...

Zodiac,
I did. Thank you.
xxxx

Cláudia said...

Hi, Niza.
I'm not up to date with the details but I seems to remember that there was some connection between the wonder couple and NZ.
Hope you're well.
xxxx

Cláudia said...

Hi, Nancy! :-)
I had a good time, thanks. :-)
"A load of b......s". Yes, I think that sums it up pretty well. :-)
This latest 'event' is even more ridiculous than what I thought was possible. I have to confess that it is kind of funny to sit back and enjoy the 'play'. :-) I haven't had time to watch anything. I just read stuff and had a couple of people who kept me informed. ;-)
It's also interesting to note some reactions from people in teg media. Not what was expected. I guess patience has its limits.
Hope you're well, Nancy.
xxxx