Sunday, March 1, 2009

The importance of swimsuits in missing children's cases

Clarence Mitchell:'I am a decent human being. If I can help them, I will'

The ex-BBC journalist built a career on professional detachment. Then, he went to work for the McCanns

Cole Morton
Sunday, 1 March 2009

The search goes on. "There is absolutely no evidence whatsoever, nothing, to suggest that Madeleine has been harmed, let alone killed," insists Clarence Mitchell, the former television reporter who speaks for the family of the most famous missing girl in the world. Her face is instantly recognisable. There is no longer any need to use her surname, McCann. And yet, nearly two years since she vanished from the Algarve, there is still no trace.

This is hard to say to Mitchell – who began as a dispassionate adviser and then became a close personal friend of her parents – but there seems no evidence to suggest the three-year-old is still living. "Obviously," he says, "as time goes on, Kate and Gerry are finding it harder and harder. But they are still firmly of the view that Madeleine is alive and out there to be found."

For months now they have turned down interviews, preferring to go through the many files handed over by the Portuguese police. There is another reason for their silence, too. "You reach a saturation point," their spokesman admits. "People would say to us, 'Oh, it's tragic, but we've almost had enough of Madeleine.' That was appalling to hear."

In their silence, Clarence Mitchell is re-emerging as a public figure in his own right. On Friday he will speak at the Oxford Union, following in the footsteps of Desmond Tutu, Mother Teresa and Kermit the Frog. Now he is giving his first personal interview since the days when he was a familiar face on the BBC. He is doing it at the West End offices of Freud Communications, which has hired him as a consultant. Dressed as if to broadcast, in a light brown suit and dark blue shirt, he has two BlackBerrys on his desk: one for Kate and Gerry, the other for everyone else.

Lately, he seems to be setting himself up as a public relations guru for families in distress, including that of 16-year-old Jimmy Mizen, who was stabbed to death in south London last year. The trial of Jimmy's alleged killer begins at the Old Bailey a week tomorrow, and Mitchell will be outside, representing the bereaved parents. Once again, he will be on our screens. But despite seeming so familiar, Clarence Mitchell has never really given anything away about himself. Why did he stop reporting and reading the news? What then drove this 46-year-old man to campaign on behalf of the McCanns, a couple he barely knew and who were suspected of murdering their daughter?

"Everything I have seen of them, in all of the pressurised situations, shows me a family who are suffering the loss of their child," he says. "Everything they are doing, behind the scenes, convinces me of that."

So far, so on message for a man who was hired in September 2007 to "salvage their reputations" in the wake of the McCanns being named as arguidos, or suspects, by the Portuguese police. Mitchell had already been with them for a month, as a civil service media expert sent to help the couple to cope with all the attention. But he returned in the pay of a millionaire supporter of the McCanns, leading a publicity campaign "to correct and balance the inaccurate coverage that was coming out and try to get everything back on an even keel ... with a view to helping to get arguido lifted".

It worked, of course: they won £550,000 damages and a front-page apology from the Daily Express, and last summer the police cleared them of all suspicion. But Mitchell could not have known it would turn out that way. "It was," he says, "gut instinct."

It was a life-changing moment. Until then, his entire career had been built on remaining calm and uninvolved in the most trying circumstances: reporting for the Hendon and Finchley Times with the local MP, Margaret Thatcher, bursting into the office; broadcasting from the M1 with the wreckage of the Kegworth air disaster strewn in front of him; covering wars in Northern Ireland, Kuwait, Iraq and the Balkans alongside the likes of Kate Adie. "You see a lot of distressing things, whether that's a war zone or a murder scene, but I have always found it relatively easy to be dispassionate."

He needed that skill most when sent on a story in Fulham in 1999. "There was a rumour that Jill Dando had been in some sort of accident. The area was taped off. There were detectives walking up from the house who told us to ring the press bureau. I said, 'Look, I know Jill.' We were friends. She used to called me Clarenzio. They said, 'She's dead, I'm afraid.' It was dreadful." But he still filed reports from the scene. "You just have to get on with it."

He did breakfast TV and the odd Six O'Clock News – "which nobody remembers" – but by the time he left the BBC in 2005, his career had reached a plateau. "I felt I had more to offer." Recruited by the Cabinet Office to run the Media Monitoring Unit, he had a hard first week. "The Monday was the G8 at Gleneagles. I was just about getting my head round the job on Tuesday, then Wednesday we won the Olympics. Thursday was 7/7." When the Foreign Office sent him to assist the McCanns – as he insists it would have helped any family in that situation – he asked difficult questions. "I was assured that from the perspective of the British authorities, this was a rare case of stranger abduction."

They had left their very young children alone in a holiday apartment while they went to a tapas bar. He doesn't duck that, even if the response has been smoothed by repetition. "They made a mistake at the time; they weren't with her when it happened. They will always regret that, God forbid, possibly for the rest of their lives."

In media terms, he says, Madeleine was "a perfect storm: her age, her appearance, the location, the parents..." Columnists wrote about "people like us". Picture editors loved Kate, to an extraordinary degree. "It would be sad if it wasn't laughable: Kate was finding herself in Nuts or whatever lads' magazine's top 10. You think, 'This is ridiculous.' But they can't help how they look."

There's no truth, then, in the report that he tried to get Kate to be photographed in a swimsuit? "Utter b*llocks." Gerry suggested it without realising the implications, he says, and was then persuaded otherwise. "A good example of facts being distorted. Completely, 180-degree wrong."

Mitchell had a home in Bath with his wife and children, two girls and a boy who were aged 10, eight and one at the time. Why go back to Portugal? "We had become friends. There was an emotional drive. I felt they had been the victims of a heinous crime and very badly wronged in the way stories had appeared."

There was also his response as a father. "I have never had to analyse it like this before ... but yes, this was every parent's nightmare, my own included." Didn't he miss his own children? "At night, when I had a few hours to myself, you did miss them more acutely, perhaps, than if it had been a job of a different nature."

These days Mitchell gets 40 per cent of his former salary as a retainer from the Find Madeleine Fund. Kate is said by relatives to spend hours with the files at home in Rothley, Leicestershire, while her twins are at nursery. Gerry, devotes evenings to the case, after days as a consultant at Glenfield Hospital.

"Sadly, the files have not revealed any substantial new leads," says Mitchell. "And sadly, they have confirmed a lot of what Kate and Gerry feared: that things haven't been done properly in certain areas, and certain things hadn't been followed up." The detective agencies they hired are no longer on the case. Have a dozen British former detectives and security service agents been employed instead, as reported? "I can't go into details, because the investigators don't wish me to. The investigation is on a smaller scale, but just as relevant."

There is still a huge amount of material to work through: such as more than 3,000 "psychic tip-offs. Any verifiable fact in them – and some are very detailed – has to be checked".

Meanwhile, his new life involves media training for corporations as well as advising people such as the mother of Scarlett Keeling, who was murdered in Goa, and the Mizens. "I do it pro bono, for free." Why? "Because these people came to me in the direst of situations, with their children dead. I'm not going to say no. Nor am I going to say, 'I'm sorry about your loss. Here's my fee.'" Others would. "It's a non-starter. I am a decent, caring human being. If I can help them, I will."

Yes, but isn't he using this free work to build the kind of reputation that made him attractive to Freud? "Not deliberately so. Honestly." Others have compared the new Clarence Mitchell to a more obviously compassionate Max Clifford, with whom he says he gets on well. "People are entitled to their point of view," he says, as calmly as he says everything, on and off camera. "But I am doing this for what I believe to be honest, genuine, compassionate reasons."

The making of a media expert

From TV to Madeleine, and beyond

1962 Born and educated in north-west London. Tries working in a bank after school but hates it.

1982 Joins Hendon and Finchley Times as a trainee reporter, which brings him into contact with the local MP, Margaret Thatcher. "To see the Prime Minister sweep into the office with Special Branch while you are writing up the latest golden wedding is quite an experience."

1985 Shift work on Sunday Express.

1986 Joins the BBC in Sheffield as a radio reporter, before going on to television in Leeds with Look North.

1989 Breakfast News in London, then "fireman" sent where needed, including extensive war reporting.

1999 Made a BBC News presenter.

2005 Joins Civil Service as director of Downing St Media Monitoring Unit.

May 2007 Sent to Portugal to help with press attention in the McCann case.

september 2007 Quits the Civil Service to become spokesman for McCanns.

2008 Extends help to other families.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/people/profiles/clarence-mitchelli-am-a-decent-human-being-if-i-can-help-them-i-will-1634738.html

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Some interesting aspects:

1 - How can a PR help anyone have their arguidos status lifted? isn't that a matter for JUSTICE to deal with?

2 - He was assured by the British authorities it was a case of stranger abduction? How could the British authorities know? Why would the British authorities interfere and say that, when the case was in a crucial stage of the investigation and suspicions about the parents were starting to emerge?

3 - I'm glad Mr Mitchell took the time to enlighten us all about his personality. I have to confess that without his help, I would never use those adjectives to describe him. And I'll leave it at that.

4 - 40% of his salary being paid by the Fund? Hmmm....

5 - Nice of Mr Mitchell to set the record straight. So it wasn't him who wanted Kate to be photographed by the press in her swimsuit (I had never heard of that). It was Gerry who suggested it. Very interesting. A common suggestion among fathers of missing children, I guess. 'Hey, honey, put on your swimsuit. Pssst, Mr PR, call the press'.

69 comments:

helmylin2 said...

Hi Cláudia,

My warped sense of humour has kicked in. All I can see is Kermit the frog saying "Hey don't mention me in the same breath as the pink one"

L.
xxx

Cláudia said...

Hi, Helmy! :-)
I forgot to include that on my considerations! :-) I completely understand Kermit the Frog. Who the hell wanted to be mentioned in the same breath as the pink one? ;-)
xxxx

helmylin2 said...

Hi Cláudia,

Hmmm, "Mitchell had a home in Bath with his wife and children, two girls and a boy who were aged 10, eight and one at the time. Why go back to Portugal? "We had become friends. There was an emotional drive. I felt they had been the victims of a heinous crime and very badly wronged in the way stories had appeared."

Now then, does this mean he no longer has a home with his wife and children? Had to me is past tense. If I was his wife I would have dumped him when he left her to deal with the miscarriage on her own. (i'm assuming that is the truth not fourm myth)

L.
xxx

Cláudia said...

Hi, Helmy!
To be honest, I know nothing about his personal life and I I'm not even interested. It is his 'professional' life that interests me, because he was hired by the McCanns as a professional to do what we have been sadly seeing and hearing since 2007. And if he one of the best, Jesus, I can't imagine how the worst are. I think he did more to ruin the McCanns' image than anyone else. Apart from the McCanns themselves, that is.
xxxx

helmylin2 said...

Hi Cláudia,

They do make a nice set of bookends,the pink one and the McCanns.
L.
xxx

Cláudia said...

Hi, Helmy! :-)
Great way of putting it. :-)
xxxx

Zodiac said...

Hi Claudia,

'and last summer the police cleared them of all suspicion'

Have I missed something? I do not recall the above statement from the Portuguese authorities!

Cláudia said...

Hi, Zodiac.
I probably missed it too. ;-)
But I wouldn't expect anything other than that, so I can't say I'm surprised. Loved this 'interview'. I wonder if Gerry loved it as much as I did. :-)
xxxx

Zodiac said...

There's no truth, then, in the report that he tried to get Kate to be photographed in a swimsuit? "Utter b*llocks." Gerry suggested it without realising the implications, he says, and was then persuaded otherwise. "A good example of facts being distorted. Completely, 180-degree wrong."

Why would the paid PR mouthpiece mouth off the above? Since when is something 180-degree's wrong, should it not be 360-degree's wrong for it to be completely wrong? I believe Carlos Anjos said about pinky he lies with as many teeth as he has in his mouth. Well when I read the statements he makes or writes I think he thinks with the obvious lack of brains he has in his head!

helmylin2 said...

Hi Cláudia and Zodiac,

I too wondered about 'and last summer the police cleared them of all suspicion'

Maybe someone should tell them the difference between case shelved and you are cleared of all suspicion.

xxx

Anonymous said...

Hello Cláudia
If Gerry really did mention his wife posing in her swimsuit then all I can say is what the hell was he thinking of.Where does such an idea come from in such a situation?Having said that how true is it that he actually thought it might be a good idea?I dont believe much I read anymore!

By the way, this wont be published on the pro blog, so if you dont mind I will copy it here to show you how stupid some people are.
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Poops wrote:
Yes we had an email from someone at Forumotion informing us of this thread and apologising for it. I understand they are now looking into it.

Right so they apologised for it but didnt delete it? If it was a fake as you have constantly claimed do you think they would have left the post there?Dont think so somehow.Now people can see you for the liars you are.Tony stop stirring you are making yourself look particularly moronic.

XXXXX:(...who I am sure will take great delight in enlightening the members of the aforementioned forum as to your true nature). What are they going to tell the people at forumotion?That I told the truth and they were lying through their falsies?That makes me look really bad doesnt it.

Obrigada Cláudia

nancy said...

Hi Claudia,

I blogged on what Goncalo said earlier - I hope it got through alright!

It's amazing that even those who are pro-child neglectors haven't a good word to say for the pink one!

I hope Tony Bennett manages to get rid of plenty of his leaflets - whatever you think about him at least he has got of his butt and tried to get something done about the silence that's going on about how Maddie disappeared!

Like Goncalo he has put himself directly in the firing line of someone out there who want nothing but to silence the pair of them.

I pray that the lies of the McCanns and their tapas pals which can clearly be picked up by the discrepancies in their statements will soon get the lot of them in a Court of Law.

I have a feeling it won't be too long before someone breaks ranks!


Nx

Mila said...

Saludos a todos.

.....""""There's no truth, then, in the report that he tried to get Kate to be photographed in a swimsuit? "Utter b*llocks." Gerry suggested it without realising the implications, he says, and was then persuaded otherwise. """"....



Y en bikini? "the implications" habrían sido positivas? es solo una idea mía.

Zetta said...

Olá Cláudia
Como estás?
Isto é muito interessante. Eu não gosto Clarence Mitchell, sua voz, cara, nada.

Cláudia said...

Hi, Zodiac!
Some people think that the pink one is very good at his job and that he is an excellent spin doctor. Although I respect that opinion, I completely disagree. I think the pink one was probably the one responsible for many people starting to have doubts. A PR has to have a good memory so he can remember all the (ahem) things he says. The pink one seems to have a good memory at all (the story about the lack of mobiles and watches being the biggest example). Yes, Carlos Anjos said exactly that. And I don't disagree with him. :-) Or you (re the brains)! :-)

Cláudia said...

Hi, Helmy. I believe the press knows the difference very well. I just don't think they are free to mention it...
xxxx

Cláudia said...

Hi, anon.
That swimsuit think is just pathetic. I think that the pink one didn't even notice that people would find that weird, to say the least. Ok, so it wasn't him, it was the father of the missing child. I don't think that makes any sense at all, but I could understand it better if it was the PR to suggest it (that's what they do - it isn't nice but it is their job). But the father of the missing child??? How the hell would that help Madeleine? Of course, it wouldn't. It would, perhaps, help THEM and give them more PUBLICITY. Them, them, them. Unbelievable.
As for the stupid people, you're praying to the converted. :-) We all know how the inhabitants of the House of Filth are. Lying is as natural as breathing for most of them.
De nada, anónimo!

Cláudia said...

Hi, Nancy!
It did, thanks.
Although some people are experts in defending the undefendable, sometimes it must be hard. :-)
As for Mr Bennett, I have to confess that in terms of politics we are probably worlds apart. But I have to value anyone willing to give his real name and face to a cause. As you said, he got off his backside and did something for Madeleine. And if that something pisses the Team off, then it's a bonus. :-) I hope all the leaflets are distributed and that people read them.
I hope you are right, Nancy. I really do. :-)
xxxx

Cláudia said...

Hola, Mila.
A bikini would be great. Especially a Brazillian one. It would probably crack (very appropriate word in the context) the case!
Besos!

Cláudia said...

Olá, Zetta!
Estou bem, obrigada. Espero que tu também.
Ninguém pode gostar daquela cara. Aquela fronha é mais feia que o sol da noite em dia de trovoada! :-) Eu gosto ainda menos que tu! :-)
xxxx

helmylin2 said...

Oh Cláudia, not a Brazillian bikini on Kate, that would make a strong man cry.
xxx

Cláudia said...

Helmy, yes, but can you imagine the publicity? Oh, the publicty... ;-)

Zodiac said...

Regarding TB I do not know enough about him although my opinion is if he is a thorn in the McC & Co's side then well done to him!


With regard to the swimsuit/bikini PR that is disgusting and disrespectful to the child that mysteriously disappeared, imo. They claim an organised gang of child snatchers took their child and part of the wider agenda is the mother parades about with the remaining siblings in her swimwear! It was bad enough when it was supposedly the PR person that suggested the idea, and then we hear straight from the PR man it was not him but the father and the father had to be persuaded it was not a good idea! WTF! Wonder if the mother thought it was a good idea?

Cláudia said...

Hi, Zodiac!
I agree regarding TB. I have read enough to know that politically we are probably on opposite sides but that has no importance at all to me. If he is a thorn on their behinds (and I think he is), then GREAT! :-)
There is no explanation for swimsuit thing. I have no explanation for why the father of a missing child would even come up with such an idea. Why the hell was he thinking about such a thing? Madeleine was and sadly still is missing. Where do swimsuits and photo shoots come into the picture? Maybe the mother just does as she's told? I have no idea. And I think thet WTF is the only suitable comment to make.
xxxx

dylan said...

Hi All,

Nancy, lovely to see you here.

Helmylin2, I have to say I had some very warped thoughts about the whole thing too! Such as the swimsuit one - ew! I love this quote from Claudia:

Hola, Mila.
A bikini would be great. Especially a Brazillian one. It would probably crack (very appropriate word in the context) the case!
Besos!

Lol! :-) ETA: What a complete boob by Clarrie! The man is a dunce if he thinks passing the buck to Gerry for that 'marvellous' swimsuit idea is doing anything for the McCann's PR. Gerry said it was Clarrie's idea and I don't think he will be pleased at this at all. Oh dear, Clarrie.

I agree with you all in that I fail to see how on earth this will help find a missing child. All it will do is make Kate a laughing stock. In any case, wasn't there a concern that Kate doesn't look maternal enough because of the size of her boobs? Also, I hardly think a "Nuts" style spread is the best way to show the world how maternal and caring a mother you are!

Poor old Clarry, Clarry on McSpinning!

Have a good eve, all. xxx

Cláudia said...

Hi, Dylan. Great to read you here.
You said it so well, I couldn't say it better. :-)
Have a great evening!
xxxx

nancy said...

Hi Claudia, Dylan, Zodiac and everyone -

I agree with you Claudia that CM has not done himself or the McCanns for that matter, any favours the way he has strutted around defending their every word and action.

It's a bit like parents defending a child for every misdemeanour or even thug like behaviour because they are his parents - they do that child no favours.

CM would be more believable if occasionally he disagreed with what they said or did - I can't believe he has taken every word from their mouths as the gospel truth, or the other tapas lot come to that. He must have read the statements and seen the discrepancies the same as the rest of us.

It will be interesting to see how he gets on with the Oxford Union address on the 6th! I hope they boo him off the stage.

Nx

Cláudia said...

Hi, Nancy!
I don't think CM believed all they said, Or anything, for that matter. And I also think he didn't have to. That's what he does, that's his job. he doesn't have to believe them and just has to make people believe them. And that is exactly where I think he failed. Which makes him a bad professional. I agree with you. He isn't believable.
The 6th may be an interesting day. :-)
xxxx

Mila said...

Hola Claudia, and everyone .

Ya esta el bikini!!:

http://themccanngallery.blogspot.com/2009/03/little-more.html


Besos a todos.

nancy said...

Hi Claudia -

I think he should take some of those Youtube interviews of the McCanns which will leave no-one in any doubt as to their involvement in Maddie's disappearance.

Kate with her 'whoosh clunk' when talking of that window of opportunity for the abductor, and Gerry pulling at his ear when asked about giving the children medication to sleep.

It certainly leaves me in no doubt - they are two very cool customers and not grieving parents, nor ever have been!

Nx

helmylin2 said...

Hi Cláudia,

I just read this thread on the 3A's. http://the3arguidos.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=35&t=29198 I found it interesting. I don't know if all the comments on the Independant are from 3A's members or not. Even if they are other members of the public can read them.

Cold, miserable, rainy and windy here. Maybe snow on Thursday.

xxx

Cláudia said...

Hola, Mila!
Gracias por el bikini! LOL
Loved it!
Besos!

Cláudia said...

Hi, Nancy!
We all know people are different, react differently to things (even tragedies) and grieve differently. But I certainly didn't know this type of grief which includes Garfield smiles nine days after a child's disappearance.
xxxx

Cláudia said...

Hi, Helmy. I also have no idea if those comments are from 3 As members or not. I haven't commented. However, what I find interesting is not the fact that most of the comments are critical of the McCanns. What I find really interested is that they got published! :-)
here it was sunny most of the day but it is cloudy now. It looks like tomorrow's going to rain.
xxxx

helmylin2 said...

Hi Cláudia,

That is what I was trying to say. It is amazing that they were published. I think they are still up. I didn't comment either. hopefully the tide is starting to turn.

Mila, that picture is great.

Ya esta el bikini!!:

xxx

Cláudia said...

Hi, Helmy. Yes, they are still there. Just checked. I find that very surprising, to be honest.
The bikini is very elegant, isn't it? :-)
Have a great evening, Helmy.
xxxx

nancy said...

Hi Claudia and all,

What about Clarence and Robert Murat giving addresses to Oxford and Cambridge respectively, and about the same topic - the media!

Coincidence or a hidden agenda?

Have a good rest of the day - I'm off to the library and the sun has come out at last!

Nx

nancy said...

Hi Claudia -

I left a comment on here this morning but it must have got lost somehow.

I made the point that CM and RM are both facing Unions of Oxford and Cambridge on the 5th and 6th March respectively and speaking on the same topics, the media!

I just wondered what your thoughts on that are - do you think it's just a coincidence, or could there be a wider agenda?

Cláudia said...

Hi, Nancy!
Yu comments came though fine. It's just that I wasn't home and couldn't publish them. I had a long day at work.
I find that interesting, to be honest. I don't know if it's a coincidence or not. However, this case has thaught me that too many coincidencies tend not to be coincidencies. :-)
Wish you a great evening!
xxxx

Anonymous said...

Rosies Mole said

Gina has a new theory! Dylan has no children and her husband has told her off for putting their names on the Net!How logical!

Cláudia said...

Hi, Rosies Mole.
PMSL! Well, that theory makes a lot of sense but only because it comes from Gina! :-)
Keep them coming! :-)

Anonymous said...

Hi Claudia and anon,

PMSL :-))) OK, I confess, I have no children and my fabricated husband was really upset that I deigned to mention my fabricated children. Oh how I wept at night at having compromised my fairy story children!

I made it all up. All of it. I apolgise here and now for being such a fraud. I shall now go and retire to fairy garden forthwith and promise to never make up such unprecedented cr@p from here onwards.

I wish to make my apologies to all of those who thought me to be a real person and if you want to sue me, you will find me cowerimg under the red toadstall with white dots (fly agaric - what world were we talking about?), under milkwood, UK. Kisses to all xxxxx

Much lurve, Dylan the dyke :-)

Cláudia said...

Hi, Dylan! ROTFLMAO!
Don't worry, hun. They're all made up people too. After all, they can't be real, can they? LOL
I'm getting ready to go to my made up bed, in my made up room after drinking one delicious made up latte.
Sleep tight, Dylan! :-)
xxxx

Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
Rosies Mole said

Gina has a new theory! Dylan has no children and her husband has told her off for putting their names on the Net!How logical!

March 4, 2009 8:11 PM

Claudia, can you please tell me where this came from because I do not think you will find a post from me saying this. Just to set the record straight, I did say offline to Rosie that I was wondering why Dylan had decided not to post on Vivs, and maybe it was because she was back with her husband (I presumed they were separated) and he did not like her blogging on there and talking about personal things. I think I may have said, but I am not sure, who knows, maybe it was all made up. Whatever I said, it was off line and said with tongue in cheek. I said I would not mention Dylan again, and I meant it, and I am not at all amused that someone has started stirring.

Regards Gina

Cláudia said...

Gina, you're hilarious!
Weren't you the one who knew all about moles? Well, you asked the wrong person. Don't ask me. Ask Rosies Mole. I just clicked the Publish button!
Work is waiting!
Bye bye!

Anonymous said...

Claudia I presumed (obviously wrongly) that this had been published on a blog and I was wondering which one, because I only post on Rosie's from time to time and it is not on there.
It is apparent that someone is trying to bring the Dylan issue up again and drag me into it and I am not going there. I have no axe to grind with Dylan, I said what I said to her in good faith, she could not see I was being genuine, her choice, end of. As for Rosie's mole, it has not taken me more than 20 seconds to work out who it is, and I find their motives for doing this pathetic. If you find it hilarious that is fine by me, I have a good sense of humour myself, but I do not find it funny that someone cannot report accurately what I said, and has found the need to do it at all. These best way to deal with it is to say Rosie's Mole, say what you like, I am not interested.

Sorry Claudia for having to bring this over to your site.

Regards Gina

Zodiac said...

Hi all,

Claudia/Nancy,

I can't believe that CM believes every word that comes out of his own mouth let alone his pretendy Lord and Lady employer's mouths! Although I could possibly think there may be 70,000+ reasons he would choose to believe his and his employer’s cr@pola! Carlos Anjos is a very wise man, now what was he said about CM? Hmm something about teeth and lies!


Mila thanks for the link to the bikini pic! LOL!

Dylan - ROFL! I will meet you under the red toadstool, I will bring my made up kiddiewinkles for you to meet...yes you will be able to meet them... I knitted them myself years ago! I have knitted my knitted husband a lovely pair of flip-flops oh what fun I shall have! I just hope knitted glue works!


BBFN

Cláudia said...

Gina, yes, I find you hilarious. Oh, and I have also been sent your insults and threats regarding Dylan. If you know who it is, than great, takie it with Rosies Mole. I was also sent a post in which you said you would never visit my blog again. But you have. Everyday, several times a day. For once, I wish you had kept your promise. Have a nice life.

Cláudia said...

Hi, Zodiac!
I don't think anyone with any remaing living brain cells can believe what comes out of that mouth. But as you said, money works miracles. :-) Carlos Anjos sait it all, in a far much better way than I would. Simple and to the point. :-)
The bikini picture is very good! :-)
I've just been doing a bit of made up work and then had to go the made up bank and ran some made up errands. I bumped into an ex made up student who is now in made up university and made me feel made up old. Now I'm back to my made up boring translation so I can earn a bit more of made up money to pay the made up bills. :-)
Try not to use high quality glue, Zodiac! LOL
xxxx

Anonymous said...

Cláudia said...
Gina, yes, I find you hilarious. Oh, and I have also been sent your insults and threats regarding Dylan.

Thanks fine by me, as long as they are what I actually said, it seems the sh.t stirring mole twists the words to suit. BTW I visted this site to read the views on the topic as it takes too long on Vivs to even get to the page. If you prefer I will read Vivs instead

Cláudia said...

Gina, I don't give a flying one about what you do. It's just funny because lying comes as naturally to you as breathing. And you have no problems whatsoever doing it publicly. Of course you can read Viv's. You would still be posting there if Viv hadn't been a lot smarter than you by kicking you out. :-) You just need a stage, wherever it is. Well, it is not here. Read all you want, if you want, when you want. But try to leave it at that.

Cláudia said...

Hi, Anonymous. I hope you understand why I won't publish your post. It's nothing personal, I just don't want to give it publicity. It made me laugh, however. She must be either drunk or her two remaining brain cells passed away. Or maybe it's old age and she just mixes things up and doesn't even notice it. Whatever it is, I hope there's a cure. :-)
Thanks for that. :-)

Anonymous said...

Rosies Mole said . . .

OK Gina.Here is the whole message.Happy now?

NOT FOR BLOG
Had trouble posting this morning so maybe you have got the same post twice, 1 is enough!!
Have you notice there is now a Zettipops posting on Claudias about Vee8 and Dylan.
Rosie, I was just wondering if Dylan had got back with her husband because she said she had not been banned from Viv's she was just not posting for personal reasons. Now it would be a turn up for the books if her husband had seen all the things she wrote about him and the kids and has told her how wrong she was and it is time to get her act together if she wants him to stay. Who knows. Maybe she is just a compulsive liar with a bad memory. Maybe she hasn't even got any kids!!!

Cláudia said...

Hi, Rosies Mole.
Oh dear! PMSL!
Maybe a bit of rest and the right medication are in order?

Anonymous said...

Rosie's Mole, thank you, yes I am happy now, because I knew I never posted that on a blog, I posted it off line after Rosie said she did not think Dylan had a husband now.
The reason I posted it offline was I had said prior to that, that I would not post anymore about Dylan I thought enough had been said for too long and it was just too much. I know whatever I say here will not be believed so there is no point saying it. One thing I will say is that on occasions I posted on here and ask Claudia not to put it on the blog, she honoured my wishes and I respect her for that. I cannot understand why the Rosie's mole has chosen to bring Dylan into this again however, what is the point of that post, it actually proves I was telling the truth not lying. Gina

Cláudia said...

Well, Gina, you got one thing right. I always keep my promises. Even when people don't deserve it.

Anonymous said...

Yes Claudia you do, and I also give credit where it is due. I also say good bye to people I cannot trust, which I have just done. Gina

Cláudia said...

Gina, you say goodbye a lot.
See you.

Anonymous said...

Claudia I was not talking about saying goodbye to you, I think you know what I mean without having to spell it out. Anyway, thank you for allowing me to explain. If the Mole chooses to post more things on here I will just ignore them.

Cláudia said...

No, Gina. To be honest, I don't. I never do.
Well, only Rosies Mole knows if there are more things worth posting or not.
Bye.

Cláudia said...

Poops, darling, remain calm and try not to lose it. I'm just hitting the Publish button here. And don't get too excited. The post from anon that I didn't publish because I didn't want to give it publicity was the one where you were making a bigger ass of yourself than usual by mixing up Zodiac and Dylan's posts, flip flops and husbands! As for the rest, I will publish everything I wish to and will keep private what I think is best to keep private. ;-)
Try to relax a bit. High blood pressure can be dangerous. It's always a pleasure to piss you off, but this time credit is due to Rosies Mole, not me. :-)
Ta ta!

dylan said...

Hi all,

Looking forward to seeing the reception that Pinkie gets from the Oxbridge society tomorrow.

I wonder if he will appear in a pink swimsuit? :-)

xxx

Cláudia said...

Dylan, it might be fun tomorrow! :-)
In a pink swimsuit? Oh boy, I think I'm going to skip dinner tonight! LOL
xxxx

Cláudia said...

Gina, you're an ass. I'm not the one who posted your 'secret' post. I just published it. :-) As I said, I will publish what I find interesting and keep to myself what I find convenient. ;-) I take it you are now going to stop reading and posting here, which will make me happier.

Cláudia said...

I can see you. :-)

Zodiac said...

Hi Claudia I think this is possibly Gina's definition of "Goodbye"...

'Cláudia said...
I can see you. :-)'

Gina said....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LD11iSEl2yQ

Cláudia said...

Hi, Zodiac! LOL
Loved it. I think it might be something like that. It's like a bad rash. When you think it's gone for good, it comes back again! :-)
Thanks for the video. Hilarious! :-)
xxxx

Zodiac said...

'It's like a bad rash. When you think it's gone for good, it comes back again!'

It certainly does Claudia:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6whzBOV8_Es&feature=related

Cláudia said...

Zodiac, PMSL!
Creepy! LOL
I loved your videos!
xxxx